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pupdaddy12003

Posted 9/21/2015 20:37 (#4801506)
Subject: Woven Wire Fence Quality

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NW Central Ohio

NW Central Ohio

As a kid I probably helped tear down close to 20 miles of fence on this farm. Every field was fenced...and we pulled and dug out the wire on all of them. I've looked at all the new fence in the TSC's and Rural Kings...and there isn't any that compares with the quality of the old fence. When they put a #9 wire top and bottom on those old fences...you could darn near tear the hole fence out just digging under the wire and lifting with a manure bucket. Will these new woven wire fences last anywhere near the 40 years the old ones did? povertypoint

Posted 9/21/2015 21:53 (#4801761 - in reply to #4801506)
Subject: RE: Woven Wire Fence Quality

SE SD

Kinda anwsered your own question.
Don't even think they call it fence, netting is what some of the lables say.

Red brand isn't to bad.
Every thing seems to have lightened up. From pickups and tractors, right
down to a half gallon box of ice cream (1.75 qts now)
Sad :(

560HighCrop

Posted 9/21/2015 22:02 (#4801790 - in reply to #4801506)
Subject: RE: Woven Wire Fence Quality

west central Iowa

Red Brand or Keystone has 3 different grades of woven wire. We ordered a couple pallets of the old style woven wire. Put wood post every 10 ft., hopefully get 50 years out of this woven wire fence.

I can find a tag if you need it. fowllife

Posted 9/22/2015 04:52 (#4802013 - in reply to #4801506)
Subject: RE: Woven Wire Fence Quality

NC Ohio

They don't stock any of the good stuff since none of the backyard cowboys want to pay for it. They can special order some of the better stuff with the square deal or cross lock ties. I think it's 9 3/4 ga top and bottom now though. It's not as good as the old stuff, but it's better then what they have in stock. pupdaddy12003

Posted 9/22/2015 06:13 (#4802071 - in reply to #4802013)
Subject: RE: Woven Wire Fence Quality

NW Central Ohio

NW Central Ohio

...That's good to hear. I've got a couple places I wanted to wrap with fence because mowing it is getting to be a pain. There's always someone with a goat or a sheep they don't want any more...and I thought I might be able to pick up some cheap labor. (Although fence ain't cheap either!!!) It still should save me some time and headaches...(Lawn mower breaking down...keeping gas and oil in it, finding someone to use it when I'm too busy, etc., etc.)
denice.r

Posted 9/22/2015 07:14 (#4802174 - in reply to #4802071)
Subject: RE: Woven Wire Fence Quality

south east Indiana

I hate red brand! If I wanted it to last for years and could afford it I would do fixed Knot woven wire. You have to watch woven wire if a sheep can get its head through it seems quite a few of them get stuck in the fence and can not figure out how to get out. I had a ewe years ago stick her head through then put her nose back through another square and hang herself. All the rest of the woven wire is 4x4 squares. The lambs can get heads in so I watch them. If the lambs and sheep have ear tags it seems to be worse. I have OK brand 4x4 and it is doing well Toepincher

Posted 9/22/2015 08:28 (#4802327 - in reply to #4802174)
Subject: RE: Woven Wire Fence Quality

North Dakota

Hows the quality of the ok. Here it's a third the price of red brand but half the quality. We are hoping to put up about a mile of woven this fall yet so would also like to hear what others have been doing. I agree i dont like the hole size of the red brand sheep fence. They have a 4x4 but its taller than what we want and expensive denice.r

Posted 9/22/2015 12:30 (#4802626 - in reply to #4802327)
Subject: RE: Woven Wire Fence Quality

south east Indiana

I find the red brand sags and squares stretch out of shape and it rusts fast. Not had a problem with the ok but mine is recently put up, under 5 years. I have had sheep hit it and so far so good ;) The horses will stretch their necks over and bend the first row but it bends back up just fine.
About the same price here as other fence. JayWalker

Posted 9/22/2015 21:00 (#4803341 - in reply to #4801506)
Subject: RE: Woven Wire Fence Quality

Coastal South Carolina

I have put up about 10 rolls in the last 10 years. I have been please with Bekert (sp) brand. I have had several tree limbs fall on it in different places and it has held up well.

Prairie Wind Farms

Posted 9/23/2015 08:35 (#4804021 - in reply to #4803341)
Subject: RE: Woven Wire Fence Quality

South Central Iowa

Power Flex Fence sells different height Hi-Tensile woven wire with positive locked knots.

$200 +/- per 330' roll. They are located just outside of Kansas City, Mo

http://www.powerflexfence.com/Default.asp




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Edited by Prairie Wind Farms 9/23/2015 08:36

tomnwoh

Posted 9/23/2015 17:30 (#4804657 - in reply to #4801506)
Subject: RE: Woven Wire Fence Quality

curtice,ohio

we use the red brand 4x4 fence for our sheep . hook the stretcher up to the 3020 and stop it just before it spins . no broken fence yet. fixed a rotted post this week and was very pleased how well thew fence of 10 yrs was holding up

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Which brand of barbwire?

gee-haw

Posted 5/17/2018 16:44 (#6764993)
Subject: Which brand of barbwire?

southern middle TN

Good afternoon guys. We are building about 3200 feet of new 6 strand fence and would appreciate opinions on the preferred brands of barbwire. Bekeart or StayTuff probably the two options we’re considering. Thanks in advance for any help and have a great day!

Edited by gee-haw 5/17/2018 16:45

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Posted 5/17/2018 17:00 (#6765015 - in reply to #6764993)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

SW, Missouri

I'm a big fan of staytuff myself, top notch product IMO. Rodeo man

Posted 5/17/2018 17:52 (#6765074 - in reply to #6764993)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

West Ky

gee-haw - 5/17/2018 16:44

Good afternoon guys. We are building about 3200 feet of new 6 strand fence and would appreciate opinions on the preferred brands of barbwire. Bekeart or StayTuff probably the two options we’re considering. Thanks in advance for any help and have a great day!

Tornado, if you can get it. t-boss

Posted 5/17/2018 18:02 (#6765086 - in reply to #6764993)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

sc ia

sc ia

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Posted 5/17/2018 18:28 (#6765124 - in reply to #6764993)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

Farm in WC Iowa

We use red brand Barb wire with good results. Scottjoe

Posted 5/17/2018 20:14 (#6765289 - in reply to #6765124)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

Southern kansas

Always used red brand four barb and considered it to be the best. A while back here on ag talk they trashed the brand and another one was suppose to be better. Don't remember which one that they liked. Macttle

Posted 5/17/2018 20:28 (#6765304 - in reply to #6765289)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

Fan of OK brand premium 2pt
Seems red brand quality has gone down plus OK is cheaper when ordering large quantities.

Never used hi tensile and won’t.

Properly stretched 2 pt, 5 wires, 4-5 6’ steels to 1 pounded 7-8’ 2 3/8, 4 1/2” x 10’ corners

Cheaper than wood, will outlast me... SE OHIO Farmer

Posted 5/17/2018 21:01 (#6765358 - in reply to #6764993)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

We use Bekaert Gaucho barbwire. Boatman

Posted 5/17/2018 21:35 (#6765432 - in reply to #6765074)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

S KY

X2
New dealer in TN for us. Ramsey Brothers near Manchester. dieselfume1

Posted 5/17/2018 21:52 (#6765473 - in reply to #6764993)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

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SE MT

Redbrand only! You'll know the difference in 20 years when the bargain brand wire starts rusting. With with wire you get what you pay for Mitchco

Posted 5/17/2018 21:54 (#6765478 - in reply to #6765124)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

SW OH

If Redbrand was given to me for free I would chuck it in the scrap iron. It will be rusty after a year, loose in a few more, breaking in 5.

Sterling has much better galvanizing. Bought a pallet of Burkhart Gaucho 10+ years ago. Half of it still unused. No rust anywhere. Some of it has been put up and taken down 10 times. Still like new.

Mitchco tjdub

Posted 5/17/2018 21:59 (#6765492 - in reply to #6765473)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

I use RedBrand because that's all that ever local places seems to sell anymore. I know some fence my dad put up in 1993 or so has a few stretches of 4 rotten wires that need to be replaced and the 1 bottom wire that's on it is in great shape and still has noticable red paint on the barbs. Is it still made the same, I don't know the answer, but I think it was definitely the brand to buy in 1993.

Edited by tjdub 5/17/2018 22:00

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Posted 5/17/2018 22:08 (#6765508 - in reply to #6765492)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

Southwest Missouri

I think this as about as good as it gets, IMO.

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Posted 5/17/2018 22:16 (#6765531 - in reply to #6765508)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

north west arkansas

I think bekaert makes that wire also but I could be wrong. We have a plant 10 miles from here and I know several guys that work here. JPT

Posted 5/17/2018 22:29 (#6765555 - in reply to #6764993)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

Has anyone used the super gaucho (cattleman pro)? Wanting to try it eight

Posted 5/17/2018 22:33 (#6765567 - in reply to #6764993)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

South Texas

4pt gaucho, it’s good and sharp, stays tight. I had a guy slip me some stay tuff a few years ago, it’s not as sharp but might be good, ask me in 20 more years. Whatever you do stay away from the cheap OK brand high tensil, it breaks easy, I get that I’m very manly but I should not be able to break it by hand. Funacres

Posted 5/17/2018 22:50 (#6765598 - in reply to #6765508)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

Texas

This one ^^^^^^^^^^^

OK Brand 4-point 12 1/2 guage is the one for me.

wayneNWAR

Posted 5/17/2018 23:08 (#6765628 - in reply to #6765555)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

north west arkansas

I'll have to look but I think that's what my last pallet is we are using on. The barbs will flat butcher you even with good gloves and it seems to be very good wire. ntexcotton

Posted 5/18/2018 00:31 (#6765683 - in reply to #6765304)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

North Central Texas

Macttle - 5/17/2018 20:28

Fan of OK brand premium 2pt
Seems red brand quality has gone down plus OK is cheaper when ordering large quantities.

Never used hi tensile and won’t.

Properly stretched 2 pt, 5 wires, 4-5 6’ steels to 1 pounded 7-8’ 2 3/8, 4 1/2” x 10’ corners

Cheaper than wood, will outlast me...

+1. Sheffield is some of the best too but they are too proud of the name. 2pt OK premium can't be beat. I never have understood anyone wanting to use gaucho. 1066smoker

Posted 5/18/2018 05:18 (#6765716 - in reply to #6765478)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

Frederick, Md

We have used gaucho in the past and it stays sharp and I don't think any of it has rusted. We are slowly going away from barb to smooth high tensile though. Boatman

Posted 5/18/2018 06:17 (#6765814 - in reply to #6764993)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

S KY

I can understand why some folks don't want to use HT barbed, since the first few years of Goucho were a bit hard to deal with. Those issues have long been resolved, and barbed wire is constantly being improved. There are lots of opinions here, from all across the country. Class I galvanized low carbon is the go to wire in TX and most of OK, because it's dry and has fairly consistent temperatures. Class III HT is the go to wire in places where it stays wet most of the year, and see extreme cold and heat. Although not recent in it's development, 14 gauge HT has just recently become popular as a better alternative to 12 gauge low carbon. Bekaert makes it, Stay Tuff makes it, and Tornado makes it. IMHO, they all three are better than OK, Red Brand, Sheffield, etc, etc. Tornado stretches tighter, faster, easier, and has longer barbs that are tighter spaced. Bekaert started the HT barbed market in the US, and their Cattlemen is no slouch. Stay Tuff does a fine job, as well. Any of the three are excellent choices in my book. Quality is top priority for us on the job, but one mile rolls make my life easier, and there's only one place to get them, so my loyalty is swayed just a bit. One thing is for sure......Red Brand hasn't made anything worth taking to the scrap yard in a dozen years or more. blacksand

Posted 5/18/2018 06:51 (#6765878 - in reply to #6765304)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

South Dakota

Ok brand has good quality, but they reduce the price by increasing the spacing between barbs, I think they short you half the barbs compared to other brands. gee-haw

Posted 5/19/2018 06:14 (#6767430 - in reply to #6764993)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

southern middle TN

Thanks guys for the opinions. Ended up buying the StayTuff cause the price was right and it is supposed to be good wire. This is the first Stay Tuff on our farm. Be safe out there and have a good day. Thanks to all who replied! bollpuller

Posted 5/19/2018 08:24 (#6767685 - in reply to #6765598)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

Grandfield, Ok.

Grandfield, Ok.

That I'd some mean stuff Roy@ranch

Posted 5/19/2018 14:29 (#6768209 - in reply to #6765086)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

North Cental Mo.

After putting miles of that stuff up, I hate it. Never again.

Roy Roy@ranch

Posted 5/19/2018 14:33 (#6768213 - in reply to #6765567)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

North Cental Mo.

Funny. All the miles of gaucho I have used is loose.

Roy t-boss

Posted 5/19/2018 20:54 (#6768732 - in reply to #6768209)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

sc ia

sc ia

Roy@ranch - 5/19/2018 14:29

After putting miles of that stuff up, I hate it. Never again.

Roy

What do you recommend? Roy@ranch

Posted 5/19/2018 21:01 (#6768746 - in reply to #6768732)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

North Cental Mo.

Ha, I used something different last fall on a recommendation that seems good for now. I'll have to look at a roll in the morning to tell you what it is. Hasn't been in a year, so jury is still out.

Roy Kickapoogian

Posted 5/22/2018 09:38 (#6773201 - in reply to #6765716)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

Soldiers Grove Wi. 54655

Soldiers Grove Wi. 54655

I've had the total opposite results of Goucho~ We put a lot of it in in the early 80s and every chance i get I tear a bunch out. What a mess! It can't be rolled up like any other wire and once it loosens up it doesn't tighten up again like it should. Looks real nice to start out with but in a few short years it sucks.. Also if it's not pastured around for a year and the grass grows up around it it rusts like crazy also... (did I mention I hate the stuff) lol Kickapoogian

Posted 5/22/2018 09:40 (#6773206 - in reply to #6768213)
Subject: RE: Which brand of barbwire?

Soldiers Grove Wi. 54655

Soldiers Grove Wi. 54655

Roy@ranch - 5/19/2018 14:33

Funny. All the miles of gaucho I have used is loose.

Roy

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